Movie Reviews By Ivan And Sylvia
Movie Reviews("Crash" vs "Brokeback Mountain")
Ivan Said:
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Actually, I think both "Crash" and "Brokeback" were "message" movies -- and both were very important messages, indeed. So, here's the Gospel according to Ivan : I think the "Crash" message was more compelling -- because when you're black, you can't "pass". If you're gay, unless you're a screaming queen or a Nellie Boy, you can generally "pass". I think "Crash" had a lot more to say about our society than any of the gay-themed films this year.
In the final analysis, "Brokeback" was simply a magnificent love story and "Transamerica" was about an INFINITESIMAL segment of the population -and is no more compelling than a movie about a paraplegic or someone with Downs Syndrome. As you know, men and gays are the only two social groups that can still be discriminated against without fear of retribution -- and a movie about two "he-man women haters" (LOL!) is really just the tip of the iceberg. You know the demographics of gay men -- generally better educated, generally have better paying jobs, more disposable income than their straight counterparts -- gay men are not downtrodden. I think the issues are much more complicated and the "gay" agenda isn't really going to be advanced by a movie about two cowboys in love. Think about it -- wasn't "Philadelphia" really a more important movie with a message that was much broader in scope?
Actually, I think both "Crash" and "Brokeback" were "message" movies -- and both were very important messages, indeed. So, here's the Gospel according to Ivan : I think the "Crash" message was more compelling -- because when you're black, you can't "pass". If you're gay, unless you're a screaming queen or a Nellie Boy, you can generally "pass". I think "Crash" had a lot more to say about our society than any of the gay-themed films this year.
In the final analysis, "Brokeback" was simply a magnificent love story and "Transamerica" was about an INFINITESIMAL segment of the population -and is no more compelling than a movie about a paraplegic or someone with Downs Syndrome. As you know, men and gays are the only two social groups that can still be discriminated against without fear of retribution -- and a movie about two "he-man women haters" (LOL!) is really just the tip of the iceberg. You know the demographics of gay men -- generally better educated, generally have better paying jobs, more disposable income than their straight counterparts -- gay men are not downtrodden. I think the issues are much more complicated and the "gay" agenda isn't really going to be advanced by a movie about two cowboys in love. Think about it -- wasn't "Philadelphia" really a more important movie with a message that was much broader in scope?
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Sylvia Said:
Oh I don't know- lets ask Matthew Shepard ( what, were it possible) which movie message was more compelling. You are right though- both movies have VERY important messages. It's true that, while racism and homophobia still prevail today, most gay people can fly under radar while most black people cannot. And,while a single gay cowboy movie may not be enough to advance "the gay agenda" for the well-heeled gay male, maybe more movies like this could benefit gay youth ( a very high risk group for suicide) by showing them the dangers of internalizing the negative feelings of shame and self-loathing perpetuated by the bigotry and hatred of past generations of homophobes. Also, while I am very sympathetic to both the black and the gay plight, I think that the best message movie is "Good Night And Good Luck." We must remember McCarthy who would destroy our freedoms in the name of defending them and we must recognize the very same cancer that is spreading in this country today.
Oh I don't know- lets ask Matthew Shepard ( what, were it possible) which movie message was more compelling. You are right though- both movies have VERY important messages. It's true that, while racism and homophobia still prevail today, most gay people can fly under radar while most black people cannot. And,while a single gay cowboy movie may not be enough to advance "the gay agenda" for the well-heeled gay male, maybe more movies like this could benefit gay youth ( a very high risk group for suicide) by showing them the dangers of internalizing the negative feelings of shame and self-loathing perpetuated by the bigotry and hatred of past generations of homophobes. Also, while I am very sympathetic to both the black and the gay plight, I think that the best message movie is "Good Night And Good Luck." We must remember McCarthy who would destroy our freedoms in the name of defending them and we must recognize the very same cancer that is spreading in this country today.
posted by Sylvia at 5:54 AM
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